As you may know, Ann Marie & I met when we both began blogging about traditional nutrition within a few months of each other. (She began fall of 2007, I began the same time, but had my first post go live on January 1st, 2008.) I’m so thankful that we’ve become friends. (See the links at the end of the interview for pictures!) What’s neat about our relationship is that we’re very different in some ways, but very much alike in others, and especially so when it comes to our love of food and anything to do with nutrition. She has a fun sense of humor and a huge heart – she loves to help others every chance she gets. Ann Marie also happens to have an amazing business and “techy” mind, and she’s been crazy busy working on Real Food Media projects, so I especially appreciate her taking the time to do this interview! Thanks, Ann Marie!
1. What is your #1 motivation for eating and feeding your family more nutritious meals?
My daughter. I read Dr. Weston Price's book, Nutrition & Physical Degeneration, when she was 5 months old. That book really opened my eyes to what is possible. I had no idea cavities are caused by nutritional deficiencies! I only wish I had found this book sooner in my life — maybe then I wouldn't have had to have 2 root canals. I'm very grateful to Sally Fallon Morell and the Weston A. Price Foundation for getting the word out about Dr. Price and his work. I'm also grateful to my Great Uncle Roy for sending me the link to the WAPF website.
2. What originally started you on your path to better nutrition?
When I was 26, I was diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis. It started in my knees and it was spreading to my fingers and elbows. The pain was so bad it would literally wake me up at night. I also had chronic fatigue, terrible respiratory allergies, recurring sinus infections, open sores in my nose that wouldn't heal, and thrush on my tongue.
Everyone said I would end up in a wheelchair. My doctor had me on inhalers and painkillers. I knew there had to be a better way. I read everything I could get my hands on about alternative medicine and nutrition. I finally found a book called “The Yeast Syndrome” by Dr. William Crook and all the pieces came together for me. I radically changed my diet and within a few weeks, my symptoms were 90% gone.
It took longer for me to totally heal. If I went off my diet, I'd have flare-ups and my symptoms would return with a vengeance. I stayed off all sugar and wheat, took strong (therapeutic grade — not the stuff in the health food store) probiotics and other food-based supplements, and worked with a chiropractor-nutritionist. Within two years, I was completely healed and could eat whatever I wanted with no symptoms.
(Note from Kelly: read about the GAPS Diet. Ann Marie, GAPS has some similarities to what you learned from “The Yeast Syndrome”, correct?)
3. What is your biggest struggle in eating well?
Not enough room in my fridge and freezers! I have an extra freezer in the garage that is always packed to the gills. I plan to buy a second freezer for the garage this month (and then I'm buying 1/2 a cow and a whole pig).
4. What is your favorite recipe?
I don't have a favorite. I can tell you my top five recipes — at least right now:
(1) French fries cooked in beef tallow or duck fat (2) sprouted flour chocolate chip cookies(3) chicken nuggets breaded with sprouted flour or sourdough bread crumbs, cooked in expeller-pressed coconut oil or beef tallow (3) BBQ chicken salad with corn, black beans, tomato & avocado with buttermilk ranch dressing and onion rings fried in expeller-pressed coconut oil or beef tallow (4) pie crust made with leaf lard or bison tallow (5) nachos, served with sour cream and fresh guacamole.
Note: Some of these are not on my blog yet but they will be soon.
(Another note from Kelly: are you crazy hungry now or WHAT?! Youza she can really COOK.)
5. How difficult was it for you (early on) to get over the modern-day “fat phobia” and go back to drinking whole milk or eating butter, coconut oil, etc. with confidence that it's better for you and without feeling guilty about “killing yourself”?
I had absolutely no trouble with this whatsoever. I've always eaten real butter and cream, full-fat ice cream. I was never the type to eat “low fat”. I always ate my chicken with the skin on, and when I'd order a sandwich, if I could get it on a croissant, I would.
I switched to whole milk (from 2%) when I got pregnant — before I ever heard about the WAPF. Instinctively, I knew the baby needed whole milk. When I found out about raw milk when my daughter was 5 months old, I transitioned our family to full-fat raw milk. I probably drank a half-gallon a day when I was nursing her.
6. What is your best kitchen/nutrition tip?
Eat more butter and cream. There are lots of ways to get good, nourishing fats into your diet. Butter and cream happen to be two of my favorites. I cook with butter, eat butter on my bread and toast, use cream in my coffee, and make ice cream. I also love Hollandaise sauce, Alfredo sauce, sour cream, whipped cream, and blue cheese dressing (homemade, of course). Who knew chocolate cream or coconut cream pie (with whipped cream on top) could actually be good for you?
7. What did you have for dinner last night?
North Carolina pulled pork (Lexington-style) made in the crock-pot and served on sourdough rolls, along with a salad of watermelon, feta cheese and red onions on a bed of baby greens.
8. Do you have a tip for how to fit exercise into a busy schedule? How do you do it?
I'm not very good at this but I try to hit the gym two or three times a week. They have a child-watch program so I go on the days I have my daughter at home with me. I swim or lift weights or walk on the treadmill. We also got a Wii and I try to find time to use the WiiFit. Not so easy to do with a toddler! When the weather is nice, I like to go for walks — especially on the beach, which is not far from our house.
Check out Ann Marie/Cheeseslave’s blog!
- More guest interviews.
- Ann Marie & I first met each other in person, AND got to meet Sally Fallon last fall at the Deidre Currie Festival! (A lot of pictures at that post.)
- Read about my fun visit to L.A. to visit Ann Marie this past spring: Expanding My Palate in Los Angeles. (Pictures at this post, too.)
- Read about exercise in my life…I’ve been baaaaad lately…
- Which milk should you buy?
- Good fats, bad fats, which is it?
Catherine says
Thanks Vin!
Catherine
Vin | NaturalBias.com says
Catherine,
In case your mother is eating grains – gluten contains peptides that are similar in structure to joint cartiledge. If undigested gluten get into the bloodstream, the antibodies produced as a result can attack joint tissue. Human tissue can also be damaged through direct contact with gluten. For more information, I suggest that you read Dangerous Grains which I have an article about on my blog.
You may also want to consider other food sensitivities besides gluten.
Vin | NaturalBias.com
Catherine says
My mother has rheumatoid arthritis. She thinks that meat causes acidity in her body and therefore she stays away from it (and loads up on carbs). Do you or AM have any sources on healing r. arthritis?
Catherine
Soli says
Kelly, it’s a new “game”/add-on to wii fit. It’s more exercise, and in addition to working with the balance board also works with resistance bands and weights.
Soli
Kelly says
Cathy, yes, we’re both going and are very hopeful that we’ll get to meet some of our great readers! 🙂
Soli, what’s Wii Active?
Tara, I love to hear that, it amazes me how many people say they check my blog (and others) a few times a day – that’s so fun!
Pam, you’ve got my interest, I’ll have to check that out.
JoLynne (Musings…) – have you looked into the GAPS Diet (look under topics on the right) and have you read the Makers Diet? (Look up under the orange tab under “Wisdom” for more on that.)
Thanks for the great feedback, reader friends! 🙂
Kel
Musings of a Housewife says
What a fun and informative interview! I have awful gastrointestinal issues and PMS symptoms, and I really want to get healthy the natural way. I have a long way to go, I realize, after reading this, but it was inspiring.
Musings of a Housewife
Rebecca in Michigan says
I always love learning more about why people switched from one way of living to NT way of living.
Wardeh @ GNOWFGLINS says
The interview was very fun to read! I really appreciate being able to know the back story behind Ann Marie getting into traditional food. Thanks for sharing your inspiring story, Ann Marie ~ and taking time from your busy life to reach out!
Wardeh @ GNOWFGLINS
Vin - NaturalBias says
Great interview and what a great story about your rheumatoid arthritis, Ann! I know people who have it but are unwilling to accept the idea that it may be related to their diet.
Pam says
I have been an avid exerciser for years but was hit by a car in 1999. I would still work out but thought I had to just live with low back pain forever. I found the T-Tapp exercise program and have been doing it about 3 months. My back is about 80% better and I have lost 1 inch around my waist (wasn’t trying to lose weight)! There is no jumping or impact, no dancing stuff, no music. The focus is on spinal alignment and the importance of moving lymph through the body. Did you know that breast tissue is highly lymphatic? I didn’t. The basic workout (which you could do forever and get results) is only 15 minutes long. You can do anything for 15 minutes! http://WWW.t-tapp.com
I do not work for this company, I just know it works.
Tara says
Great interview! Yours, cheeseslave and food renegades blogs are my real food faves! I check them several times a day. Thanks so much for the inspiration!!
Tara
Soli says
Two thumbs up for the WiiFit! I’m so hooked on mine, and this fall I am hoping to get Wii Active as well.
Soli
Nancy says
Great post! Now Ann Marie should do an interview with you! Love both of your blogs!
Shannon says
Great interview! I did not realize all of the health struggles that you had been through, Ann Marie. After doing even more research for my latest post about healthy fats I am even more convinced that they are one of the keys to great health.
Shannon
Cathy Payne says
I had never heard Ann Marie’s story, so this was very interesting, Kelly! Will either of you be at the WAPF conference this year? Jon and I hope to go and it would be great to meet both of you. Thanks for all you do to promote healthy, sustainable eating!
Cathy Payne