Kelly The Kitchen Kop

Organic Soaked Homemade Bread Recipe in the BOSCH

October 26, 2008 · 46 comments

Read more background info on this recipe and all about my breadmaking saga. As I said there, this homemade bread recipe turns out better than store bought bread! It has great flavor and texture, and because of how well the BOSCH works the dough, it is so soft. It rises well, slices well, keeps well, and even comes out of the freezer well. Kids love it, too. Not only that, it’s organic, almost all whole grain, easy, and economical. One of the best things, though, is that it is also “soaked“, which means that just by starting the recipe the night before, it is much more nutritious because the phytic acid is broken down, and mineral absorption isn’t blocked.

Keep in mind: the amounts below are for 3 LOAVES. For the 6 LOAF RECIPE, see further below. (When I was experimenting I didn’t want to make more than 3 at once.)

ALSO keep in mind, all the ingredients I use are organic.

Kelly’s Soaked Organic Homemade Bread Recipe in the Bosch, adapted from Shauna’s recipe


1. The night before, add these ingredients to your Bosch Kitchen Mixer:

  • 4 c. whole wheat flour (I grind it in my Nutrimill from “hard” wheat, don’t use pastry flour or “soft” wheat for bread)
  • 1 1/2 c. spelt (or you can just use more whole wheat, but adding in alternative grains to your diet here & there is a good idea)
  • 3/4 c. buttermilk (I make it from our raw milk – it’s so easy! Read how to make buttermilk) – you could also use whole milk yogurt, or kefir. (NT says if you have milk allergies to use an equal amount of water + 1 T. lemon juice, whey or vinegar, but I haven’t tried this.) I thought the buttermilk was easiest to make, it keeps a long time, and it is economical. According to Susan, a reader who has been experimenting with me, it also works as a dough enhancer.
  • 2 c. very warm water

2. Mix just until all the flour is wet. Put the lid on the Bosch, and let set at least 7 hours, but 12 or more is even better and you may even have a nice sourdough taste. (Once I didn’t know we were having hamburgers until that morning, so I only soaked it 4 hours – I figured it was better than nothing, and much better than buying them at the store.)

3. The next day, or whenever you’re ready to finish your bread, here’s what to do next:

  • Add 1 egg to the Bosch
  • Add 3 c. Bob’s Red Mill white unbleached flour (there’s no phytic acid in white flour)
  • Measure a 1/4 c. hot water in a measuring cup…don’t put it in yet…
  • Add to the hot water (so it melts) 1/4 c. refined or unrefined coconut oil (depends on whether or not you don’t mind a little coconut flavor in your bread – I use the refined with no taste or smell) – if it’s warm in your kitchen and the oil is already melted just add these two ingredients to the Bosch. (Normally you’d never put hot water anywhere near yeast, as it will kill it. But by the time the oil melts and you mix it in, the water will be only warm.)
  • Once it’s melted, add it in, and start mixing on the lowest speed
  • Add 2 1/2 T. yeast, keep mixing on lowest speed
  • Add 1/2 c. local raw honey
  • 1 T. sea salt (always add salt last after the yeast is mixed into the dough well – the flour protects the yeast and keeps the salt from killing it.

(11/08 NOTE: I increased the amounts of salt & yeast to the amounts above and liked how it turned out better.)

4. When the dough has cleaned up the sides and middle of the bowl, check how the dough feels and see if you need a bit more water or flour (you’ll know if it feels too dry or too wet), and then set the timer for 14 minutes and continue mixing on the lowest speed.

5. Meanwhile, butter your bread pans. (Butter up and over the lip of the bread pan, so it will come out easily after baking.) When the dough is done, use buttered hands to split it into 3 equal pieces (some weigh it out, but I just guess), shape them into a loaf, and press into the pans. Be careful not to fold it over itself and leave big air pockets. (I’ve done this now and then – my family frowns on big 1″ holes in the middle of their bread for some reason.)

VARIATION FOR FREEZING THE DOUGH: at this point you could shape the dough to fit your pan (or shape into buns to use in the future), then freeze before letting it rise. When it’s frozen, transfer it to a freezer baggie (to free up your pan). Now you have homemade bread all ready to thaw, rise and bake some day when you feel like fresh-baked heaven right from the oven. Or keep reading if you plan to bake them all at once and then freeze…that works, too! (See the following links for info on these variations, and also where to get a good price on stainless steel bread pans, cookie sheets, etc.)

6. RISE

The time depends on the temp in your kitchen – usually 2-3 hours. The first time I made this I was shocked that it only took ONE rise, other homemade breads I’ve made in the past took 2-3 rises and it was an all day affair. This is so much faster and easier! Shauna explained that only one rise is necessary with a Bosch, because it mixes and develops the gluten so efficiently. (This is also why it comes out so soft!)

7. BAKE

When it’s the height you want (don’t wait too long or it will fall), carefully place the bread pans into a cool oven, and set it for 350*. Bake 25 minutes. (This is for an electric oven, for a gas oven, preheat to 350*, then bake for 20 minutes.)

8. COOL

When you take it out of the oven, immediately (carefully) take it out of the pan and cool on a wire rack, otherwise condensation builds up in the pan and makes the bread soggy.

9. ENJOY

  • Use it for your everyday bread – sandwiches, toast, etc.
  • Freeze in a labeled freezer baggie after it’s cool.
  • OR, my preference is to slather it with plenty of butter and eat it while it’s warm :)

BUY THE BOSCH

AMOUNTS FOR 6 LOAF RECIPE (Detailed recipe above)

Note - this recipe is a work in progress! If you notice the recipe changing here each time you check, it’s because I’m trying things that may or may not be working. When I just doubled the 3 loaf batch from above, it was too much dough for my Bosch – the top was coming off, and it was dripping out the sides. But I ended up getting 7 batches of bread: 5 loaves, 7 hot dog buns, and a pan of cinnamon rolls out of it – so my 3 loaf batch must be 3 bigger loaves than I made.

Next time I’m going to try these amounts:

Night before:

  • 7 c. whole wheat flour
  • 3 c. spelt flour (or you can just use more whole wheat)
  • 1 1/2 c. buttermilk
  • 3 1/2 c. very warm water

Next day:

  • Add 2 eggs to the Bosch (I just read that eggs make your dough dry, so I’m omitting these and using more water instead, see below)
  • Add 5 c. Bob’s Red Mill white unbleached flour – you MAY need more of this – go by how it feels. Too dry? Add a few drops of water. Too wet? Add a bit more flour.
  • Measure a 1 c. very warm water in a measuring cup…don’t put it in yet…
  • Add to the hot water (so it melts) 1/2 c. refined or unrefined coconut oil. Once it’s melted, add it in, and start mixing on the lowest speed.
  • Add 4 T. yeast, keep mixing on lowest speed
  • Add 1 c. local raw honey
  • 1 T. sea salt

When making all 6 loaves, you’ll need to bake 3 at a time, obviously, unless you’re lucky enough to have two ovens. Let me know how it goes for you!

Read about how Susan makes bread with her Bosch:

“I usually make 5 loaves and a pan of cinnamon rolls. I turn the oven to its lowest setting while I’m forming the loaves… I weigh 1.5 lbs of dough out for each loaf of bread. Then I put the pans of bread on the pizza stone in my oven and turn OFF the oven. I set the timer for 55 minutes for the bread to rise. Allowing the bread to rise in the oven like this gives it a more “controlled” environment… I’ve read that allowing bread to rise on the countertop at room temp is “better”, but that’s too unpredictable for me… I’m ADHD and I’ll “forget” to check on the bread if I don’t have a timer on it! Then once the bread has risen properly, I turn the oven onto 350* and put the timer on 35 minutes…I had to watch the bread rising closely several times to get the 55 minutes right, and again monitored baking the bread several times to get the 35 minutes right. The slightly over/under raised bread and slightly over-browned batches were all wolfed down by my family … so the experiments went to good use. When I moved I had to adjust the times, and I think I used to put the oven at 325* for baking the bread… the oven at my new place isn’t as good as my last oven – we rent, so I have to work with what I’m given to work with.”

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Julie 10.27.08 at 3:23 am

Did I miss it, or did you leave out the yeast in the 3-loaf recipe? :)

Julie

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Kelly the Kitchen Kop 10.27.08 at 6:31 am

Thanks Julie!

Thank God you are on the ball this morning – geesh, you’d never know that I’m always working on my blog when it’s LATE and I’m super tired would ya?!

I fixed it.

Kelly

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Anonymous 10.27.08 at 6:51 am

Thanks, Kelly. I am going to try your recipe. I put all the dough ingredients together the night before and soak it overnight in the refrigerator (18 hours ideally from what I have read). I am wondering if the 7 hours is long enough to break down the phytic acid. It would be great to not refrigerate it and have to wait for it to warm back up. I also never considered freezing the dough – what a great idea. I pre-slice my bread and freeze the extra loaves and that has worked out well so far, but I might try your method too. I use butter rather than coconut oil, but wow that could lend a great flavor. I am curious why you add the unbleached white flour? I grind a mixture of white and red winter wheats or for a really, really light bread white winter and kamut.

Thanks,

Holly

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Kelly the Kitchen Kop 10.27.08 at 7:04 am

Hi Holly,

I’ve heard you should always soak on the counter, because in a cold frig, the phytic acid won’t be broken down.

So you use all whole grains and don’t add any gluten? Do you still get a good rise and a light loaf?? If so, now I need YOUR recipe! :)

NT says at least 7 hours, but that longer is even better. I’ll change my recipe to say that. Thanks for the reminder.

Kelly

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ka 11.03.08 at 9:42 am

Can I use a hand mixer to make this or will the bread not turn out?

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Kelly the Kitchen Kop 11.03.08 at 9:58 am

Sorry to bring bad news, but a hand mixer won’t be any where near as powerful as you need it to be. :(

Kelly

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Anonymous 11.05.08 at 1:15 pm

I only have a glass bread pan – should I cook longer? Also I made rolls with “2 loaves” of the dough and they looked great after 3 hrs rising, but when I took them out of the oven to preheat it they fell into one big flat sheet of bread and never recovered. Tips for next time?
Thank you
mommymarnie (former MI resident)

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Kelly the Kitchen Kop 11.05.08 at 7:09 pm

Hi MommyMarnie,

I did mine with a glass bread pan (borrowed from a neighbor) before I got more, and it was fine baking it the same amount of time. Just look at it and if it’s not a nice golden brown, leave it a bit longer.

Bummer about your rolls falling! All I can think of is maybe you let them rise too long, or were they bumped on the way out or back in???

I’ve had my bread fall a bit in the middle if I let it rise too long, very disappointing!

Kelly

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Rebecca 11.24.08 at 12:36 pm

Do you also mill your own spelt?

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Shelley Mathiot 12.16.08 at 7:02 pm

Thanks for all the info. I am baking bread with my Bosch and selling it to people. I think this soaking idea may help some of my customers who have said that they have a hard time digesting bread. I use 100 percent whole wheat. I use half hard red wheat and half hard white. I also add vitamin C and a little lethicin (I think thats spelled wrong. My loaves come out beautiful and light and never a brick. The vitamin C is the big trick! It’s often called ascorbic acid. Try 1/4 teaspoon per loaf. I also mix all the wet ingredients, and about 6 c of the wheat, and the yeast and lethicin and let it sit for 20 minutes or so and rise and get bubbly. Then I add the rest of the flour and the salt. Your bread will really improve with this step added in.

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Kelly the Kitchen Kop 12.16.08 at 7:13 pm

Hi Shelley,

I JUST the other day made my first loaves with ascorbic acid, and wow, what extra wonderful loaves they made!!

Thanks for your tips, neat that people buy your bread! I’ll be sure to ask you more if I’m struggling with my recipe!

Kelly

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Rhonda 12.31.08 at 3:37 pm

This is a great recipe. I have been making bread in my Bosch for many years, and this soaked bread is so much better than the usual homemade whole wheat bread. Much softer and fluffier. And BTW – I think using part white flour is the way to go!! But now I would just like to give you all the best tip ever for bread making (!) – use a digital roasting thermometer to have the PERFECTLY cooked bread EVERY time. After my bread has been in the oven for 15-20 minutes (waiting until most of the rising is done keeps it from rising up on the probe), I put the probe into one of the loaves, having pre-set the thermometer to alert me at 190 degrees. Then, when the bread is done the timer rings and out of the oven it comes. I haven’t had a dry loaf or a soggy center a single time since using this technique that I heard on a phone seminar with Sue Gregg. REALLY! You all should try this!! The thermometer cost me around $20, but it is soooo worth it!
Blessings!
Rhonda from Vancouver WA

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Rhonda 12.31.08 at 3:42 pm

Question?
Does anyone know how long can you leave the bread dough in the freezer?

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Kelly 01.01.09 at 11:53 am

Rhonda,

GREAT TIMING! I just had some not-done-enough loaves come out yesterday. The thermometer is on my list.

How long can you leave bread dough in the freezer? Sorry, I have no specific length of time to give you, but I’d say no more than 6 months before it might get a freezer taste – and this is only if you have it sealed up nice and tight. That’s just a guess, though, sorry!

Kelly

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Tracy in NC 01.01.09 at 12:22 pm

Kelly, I ended up leaving my dough to soak for about 18 hours and it was soooo yummy! Stuff kept coming up and I just couldn’t get to it before then. My family couldn’t get enough. They ate the 3 loaves in about a day and a half. Thanks!

Tracy in NC

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Rachael 01.03.09 at 10:02 am

Kelly,

I’m new to making bread, at least the RIGHT way. I currently have a KitchenAid stand mixer and want to try making bread a few times before we purchase a BOSCH. How would that affect the time necessary to mix and rise? I’m guessing I can’t apply the 14 minute mix on low to my mixer. Maybe bump up the speed? And how do I know when it’s done rising? When it has doubled in bulk?

Thanks,
Rachael in AZ

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Kelly 01.03.09 at 11:14 am

Hi Rachael,

I think the Kitchen Aid is similar, depending on the model and motor, but I don’t know for sure how it would compare time-wise to a Bosch. You couldn’t get as much dough in the K.A. though, so don’t overfill!

As far as how long to let it rise, I just let it go until the bread is the height I want it to be at (judging from what would fit in my toaster!), then bake it.

Kelly

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Kelly 01.08.09 at 7:20 pm

Rhonda,
Where did you get your bread thermometer? I bought one but it can’t stay in the oven like yours!
Thanks, Kelly

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Jennifer 01.29.09 at 1:11 pm

I am fairly new to bread making … like, I just started this week. LOL! Anyway, I made your bread recipe today with my KitchenAid mixer and it turned out fabulous! I did everything you said to in the recipe (time, etc) but just substituted the machine. I am so impressed! Of course I could never mix the six loaves in the KitchenAid, but, the recipe for three loaves work just great. I am so happy to have found a healthy, great tasting bread! Thank you :-)

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Kelly 01.29.09 at 3:41 pm

Jennifer, I’m so glad it turned out well for you! I’m still playing with the recipe and tweaking things all the time. I always think there must be an “even better” loaf to be made!

I appreciate the feedback. :)

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Alyssa 02.04.09 at 2:59 pm

Great Recipe. I made it yesterday and my daughter (the picky one in the family) loved it. Anyways, I wanted to know if you have adapted this recipe at all so that you don’t have to use additional “Bob’s Red Mill white unbleached flour”? I grind my own grain, so I would like to use all home ground grains rather than store bought. If I use 3 cups of whole wheat flour in place of Bob’s white unbleached, then the whole wheat isn’t soaked, which is what I am trying to get away from also. Any suggestion?

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Kelly 02.04.09 at 5:10 pm

Hi Alyssa,
No, I haven’t gotten there yet, but I’ll try to experiment with this more soon. I also want to get the 6-loaf batch nailed down.

OH, but one thing you could do is use sprouted whole wheat flour to add in the next day. I just don’t know about the “heaviness” factor. I think I’ll try this first. I’ve got more grain sprouting right now…

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Mary 02.07.09 at 8:45 am

I made your recipe using my kitchen aid. It was GREAT! I made 2 loaves & made 12 rolls which I flash froze & then vacuum sealed for another time. I haven’t made homemade bread in maybe 2 yrs. so this was a reall treat with our real butter!
I loved all the good tips & comments above too, very encouraging. :)

Thanks, Mary

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Kelly 02.07.09 at 8:49 am

Hi Mary, I’m glad you liked it!

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Rebecca K 03.19.09 at 10:02 pm

I have made this recipe twice now. My second batch is in the oven and making our house smell yummy as we speak! But, both times my bread has looked like “flat-top” bread. It tastes great, and isn’t brick like, but is very flat on top. It doesn’t look like your pictures! Is this normal for this type of bread? Or do I need to let it rise more? I’m afraid to let it rise more for fear of it falling. I’ve been rising it on the stove top with the oven set to about 200 degrees to give it a warm cozy place to rise. And, both times it has soaked overnight for probably close to 18 hours. Now, I’m not sure about the size of my pans. I think they may be the “wider” loaf pans not the skinnier loaf pans.
Thanks! Rebecca

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Kelly 03.22.09 at 1:25 am

Rebecca,

To tell you the truth, I’m learning that bread is a STRANGE beast. I had great luck with this recipe for a long time, now recently it’s not been turning out as well! I’ve got to figure out what I’m doing differently!

To answer your question, though, I’d try letting it rise more…but don’t hate me if it falls!

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Kara 05.29.09 at 10:49 pm

Kelly, do you have Shauna’s original recipe? I’m interested in seeing it if it’s completely whole grain. Thanks!

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Kelly 05.31.09 at 10:10 pm

Kara, I don’t know what I did with her original recipe now, but I’ll email and ask her to post it at her blog and then send you there when she gets it up. (Or go to her blog and sign up to receive her updates.)

Remember, hers isn’t a soaked recipe, though, but she has good luck with it.

Kelly

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Kaye 06.26.09 at 9:41 am

Kelly,
I have noticed that since I have started soaking my flour the night before that my dough (when I am done kneading it) comes out very stretchy. Makes me think of taffy. I have never had dough be that way. Have you experienced this?

Thanks for bread recipe….trying it out this morning.

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Kelly 06.26.09 at 7:12 pm

I don’t think that has happened to me, hopefully it turns out OK – I’m learning that bread is so touchy!

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joanna 08.14.09 at 10:21 am

Hi kelly,

I’m a complete novice to bread-making but very very interested to try it out… So i thought the whole point was to avoid refined carbs? Is there any reason why you add 3 c. Bob’s Red Mill white unbleached flour and not mill your own white flour? (like you did with the whole wheat…)

Joanna

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KitchenKop 08.15.09 at 11:05 pm

Hi Joanna,

Yes, it’s good to avoid refined carbs, but if my family won’t eat it because it’s too heavy or hasn’t risen enough to make a lighter loaf, that’s not helping me much, so I add a little of the Bob’s flour to make it a bit lighter, and so it rises. You can’t “mill white flour” because white flour is made by processing a grain of wheat into separate parts. Anything you mill yourself is a whole grain, which is good, but as I said, it tends to make a heavier loaf that doesn’t rise as well, so I’m still doing a “compromise” loaf. I’m going to play with sourdough more again soon, and hope I can get more whole grains into that.

Kelly

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joanna 08.17.09 at 11:44 am

Kelly, thanks for your thoughts! Now I get it! If I ever get into breadmaking, I might have to make a compromise loaf myself because of the husband’s preferences.

I’m doing more research on Bosch…

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Heidi 09.02.09 at 11:01 am

I use half hard red and half soft white wheat. The place where I get it sells ground soft white wheat as more of a pastry flour, so now I just get a bag of each and grind it myself. I also use gluten, org. potato flour and a bit of rolled oats to my loaves. I have found that the potato flour helps tremendously to keep the loaves from being crumbly.

I’ve been wanting to make a soaked grain bread. This is perfect! I can’t wait to try it!

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KitchenKop 09.04.09 at 9:52 pm

I’m answering Shelley from the comments at another post…

Shelley,
Try cutting the above recipe for 3 loaves and using 1/3 in your bread machine. I haven’t done this, but it should come out OK. After the first step, leave it overnight in your bread machine on the counter, and in the morning finish making the loaf right in there. I always used to take the dough out of the bread machine to shape it myself for the bread pan, and then let it rise and then bake.
Kelly

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Megan 09.09.09 at 3:46 pm

I just made the 3 loaf recipe today and it turned out great. I did tweak it a little though. I added 3 T Gluten and 1 T dough enhancer. I also only added 1 cup of white flour and then slowly added until the dough cleaned the sides of the bowl. That’s a sure way with the Bosch to get the right texture and not have to add more water.
Also, a little tip so you don’t get air bubbles: Form the loaf (I just make the shape with my hands), then slam it down on the to counter. Reform and slam again. It will make a *splat* noise, but when all the air bubbles are out it will *thud.* I usually make sure it thuds at least twice and then just pop it in the pan.
Thanks so much for this recipe! I plan on experimenting more and will let you know how it works!

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KitchenKop 09.09.09 at 4:42 pm

Megan, I’ve had major air bubble issues lately, thanks for the great tips!

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Musings of a Housewife 09.09.09 at 4:46 pm

I made this today. DELISH!

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Megan 09.13.09 at 9:11 pm

I just wanted to add that one of my favorite things about this recipe (besides the health benefits) is that I can split the work up into 2 sessions. With a 3 month old, I was really struggling to find a big enough block of time to make bread, but now that I can do the first chunk in the evening and then make the bread in the morning, I’ve been able to get it done much more easily! Thanks again for passing on the recipe. I just got the flour soaking for a 6 loaf batch. Hopefully this one turns out just as great!

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Barbara 11.25.09 at 1:35 pm

Kelly, I’ve been trying the “Artisan Bread in 5 minutes a Day” but I like the all purpose bread that your recipe makes. Have you seen the Sue Gregg cookbooks? She has many recipes for “Blender breads” which are soaked overnight. Her waffles and breakfast breads are wonderful and she has a host of nourishing common sense recipes that I think would fit in well with your program.

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KitchenKop 11.25.09 at 5:55 pm

Hmmmm, a “blender bread”, I’d like to try that one…

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Claudine 12.16.09 at 8:41 am

Hi Kelly,
I am very excited to try the soaked bread recipe. I tried a soaked bread recipe a while ago and my family didn’t like it but, I think it was because it called for vinegar. This time I am trying raw kefir. I hope they like it better.
I am making the 6 loaves recipe and was wondering if I should omit the 2 eggs or not and also how much water to add if I do. I wasn’t sure if I should omit the eggs and add the water indicated (1 cup). Also, I do have King Arthur unbleached white flour. Would that work instead of Bob’s?
My flour has soaked all night but, it will have to soak longer because I realized I need more yeast and need to run and get some. It sounds like it will still be good if I let it sit longer.
Well, thank you in advance for your comments to my questions. I really do enjoy your website. Have a great day!

Thanks, Claudine

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KitchenKop 12.16.09 at 4:39 pm

Hi Claudine,
Keep in mind I haven’t played around more with the 6-loaf recipe, I still usually make 3 at a time. You could try omitting the eggs and then just see how the dough feels when deciding if it needs more water and how much. It should feel soft but not sticky. (Usually 1 egg = 1/4 c. or so.) And yes, your King Arthur flour should be just fine. Good luck!
Kelly

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Veronica 01.17.10 at 12:56 pm

I was SO excited to find a soaked grain bread recipe that could be made using my Kitchen Aid! I started my batch using the 3 loaf recipe last night, (one loaf of bread and 24 dinner rolls). I love the way the dough smelled when I got up this morning! I read other comments from readers who were able to use this recipe with their KA mixer. That part didn’t work out so well for me for some reason. The dough just balled up really tightly around my dough hook and the motor in the mixer sounded like it was working extra hard. I ended up kneading mostly by hand, after several frustrating mintues of trying to make it work in my mixer. The dough felt wonderful as I was shaping the loaves and the rolls. I have them rising right now. I was wondering if any other KA users would be willing to share some tips as to how they were able to make this work in the mixer. It could be that mine just isn’t powerful enough, I guess.

Either way, thank you so much for this recipe! The dough looks and smells great. I can’t wait to try it when it’s done. Another note for anyone concerned about using coconut oil because of taste: I used half unrefined coconut oil and half butter and it seems to have worked great. I prefer coconut oil, but I only use unrefined and didn’t want to taste it in the finished bread.

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KitchenKop 01.17.10 at 3:32 pm

Veronica, I wonder if you just needed to add a little water? Or maybe try an even smaller batch in your KA?

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Veronica 01.19.10 at 11:50 pm

Actually, I think that my Kitchen Aid is just too weak for this heavy dough. I’ve read other places where people were complaining about their Kitchen Aid dough hook. Frankly, I did most of the kneading by hand and it was the best bread that I have ever made! I cannot tell you how happy I am that I found an easy, HEALTHY bread recipe! Thanks again :)

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