Shocking Details on the Horrific Case Against Jacob Stieler’s Parents – Part 2

December 9, 2011 · 24 comments

This is Part 2, go here if you missed any posts on the Jacob Stieler case – at that link, click on the post at the bottom to start at the beginning and catch all the updates…

Remember, this is a continuation of the whole story from Jacob’s Aunt Rachel, as she share’s her point of view…

Erin, Liz and I had many conversations about the possible effects the chemo could have on Jacob.  Erin spent many nights talking to Ken on the phone, discussing options.

Doing chemo was going against everything they believed, but at such a scary time, they felt pressured by the doctors.

The 12 weeks of chemotherapy Jacob suffered through up until July were considered “induction therapy”.  They would then do a PET scan to see how much the tumor had shrunk and then Jacob’s oncologist would schedule the chemo and radiation from there.

We had read about many cases where the parents went against the doctor’s “professional opinion” and their child was taken away. 

Ken and Erin decided to wait until the 12 weeks of chemo were over to decide where to go from there—if they would continue treatment and if so, what kind and where.  They decided to pray that Jacob’s body would be protected against the poison the doctors insisted that he needed until July.  We continued to research different clinics that practiced alternative medicine.

Jacob’s reaction to the drugs became worse over time. 

He was rapidly losing weight, his hair was falling out, his eyes looked dark and hollow and he was extremely nauseous…it was heartbreaking.  He could barely keep his food down.  He had a longer recovery time after each round of chemo.  It eventually seemed like he would finally get to the point where he wasn’t throwing up and becoming more like himself again, and then it was time to go back and do another round.  During this time, Erin was giving him vitamins and supplements when he felt well enough to take them.  Erin has mentioned several times that it was prayer and the natural vitamins and protein shakes that got Jacob through the chemo without major damage.

A powerful prayer…

She prayed to God, saying, “God, either heal him or take him because I know he can’t do this anymore and I know he won’t make it another 6 months.  I’d much rather have him with you in heaven than to be suffering here on earth.”  I’m getting teary-eyed again as I write it.  She just recently told Liz and I that.  When Liz and I discussed it later, we realized how hard it would be to do that.  I know God loves my son more than I can possibly know or understand, but as a parent, to surrender and say “take my child if it’s your will”…wow.

At one point, Erin began voicing her concerns to Dr. Kurt and asked her if she would do the same to her son. 

Dr. Kurt answered, “Yes—that’s how much I believe in it.”  But I think Erin and Ken became more and more sure of what their decision would be if the upcoming PET scan was clear.

Erin told me that she felt more tension between her and Dr. Kurt throughout the weeks before his PET scan.  Erin said, “Dr. Kurt told me that if I didn’t give her an answer about radiation by Friday, that would be rude, because she has things to do.”

Erin often confided in a social worker at the hospital.  She seemed sweet and concerned about the stress Dr. Kurt was putting her under.  Dr. Kurt continued to urge Erin to make a decision on radiation.  She asked Erin to just name the hospital and she would write Erin a referral.  Each time, Erin would say, “I don’t know.  I’m not making any decisions yet—not until the PET scan.”  Erin told me it was obvious that Dr. Kurt was getting annoyed.  She sent doctors and nurses to speak with Erin, asking her for her insurance information so they could call around and make sure the hospitals that offered photon radiation accepted her insurance.

Erin is convinced that their conversations were being recorded.

Erin said, “The social worker and doctors kept fiddling with their pagers, even when there had been no vibration noise that a beep or call had come through.  The two and three pages of notes in the files about our conversations were another clue, because there’s no way they could remember all that from memory.”

Erin knew exactly what they were up to, that they were just pressuring her to make a decision.  She said as much to the social worker one day.  The social worker asked Erin if she would mind if she sent Dr. Axtell, another oncologist, to come talk with her.  Erin agreed.  When Dr. Axtell came to the room, Erin, once again, voiced her concerns.

She said, “If the PET scan comes up clear, then why would we continue treatment?”

Further treatment for Jacob (following the “standard of care” protocol that they were insisting upon) would mean 12 more rounds of chemotherapy (24 weeks) and several weeks of radiation.  Jacob’s surgeon was able to get all but a very small part of the mass, and then the cancer was gone after 3 months (and 6 rounds of chemo), which rarely, if ever, happens.  The “standard of care” protocol should not apply!!  But they continued to not look at his individual case.

MORE chemo AND radiation?  He had surgery, he’s done 12 weeks of chemo…what’s the point of making him suffer more, increasing the chances of severe side effects?”

Dr. Axtell replied, “Chemo takes care of the cancer cells, and radiation kills the tumor cells.
So…there’s a difference?”, Erin asked.
Well…they’re parallel.
So, they’re the same.”
Pretty much.”
…And then the subject was changed.  (???)

Erin also met with a radiologist.  They discussed the options and he told Erin about the difference between proton and photon therapy.  Erin asked him questions about long-term effects and he was very honest.

He told her she was right about her concerns. 

He told Erin about a girl that came to HDCH at the age of 12 with a tumor and had radiation.  Recently, she had returned 12 years later and had to have her hand amputated, due to a tumor caused by the radiation.  Erin said, “Exactly—what about the effects of radiation after 10 or 20 years?”  “You’re right.”, he replied, “the patient is only followed-up on for five years.”

Later, when Erin read over the medical records and doctor/nurse’s notes that Liz and I retrieved for her from HDCH, that same radiologist had written, “Mom’s done her research.”

By this point, Ken and Erin weren’t sure what to do. 

They knew that when Jacob had his PET scan, the results would help give them an answer.  Over several weeks, she researched different alternative treatment centers, and found one in particular that stood out.  It was out of state and focused on detoxing, rebuilding the immune system, and putting on healthy weight with raw, natural foods.  Erin mentioned it to Jacob and he immediately started crying, “YES!!!  Yes!!!  I’ll go anywhere or do anything!  I just don’t want to feel like this anymore!” (That’s not a dramatization, either.  I’ll remember that moment for the rest of my life.)

He sobbed on the couch for a while and it really hit me—it wasn’t even the physical part that was difficult for him.  This poor boy had gone through so much emotionally, often telling his mom that he, “Just wanted to go to sleep and never wake up,” or other similar heartbreaking statements.  He had become depressed—we were all sure that if Jacob had to suffer through one more day of treatment, he would give up.  That day, Erin called the alternative treatment center and talked with the owner/doctor.  After their conversation, she was sure this is where they needed to go.

On July 6th, Jacob had his PET scan.  The next day the results were in…it came back all clear! 

We had people praying for this boy since the day he was flown down to the hospital.  Benefit dinners were held for him, fundraisers, a website was put up to support the family, and people were writing him from all over the country.  It was the victory we had prayed and hoped for, and as far as the doctors were concerned, it was “impossible”.  But it happened.  The cancer was gone!

Erin said, “When Dr. Kurt entered the room with the results, she didn’t tell us anything right away.  Why wouldn’t she be bursting with this great news, that we beat this in only three months?!! 

She was always very good with Jacob.  First she came in and did some physical checks on him for a few minutes and finally he asked, “Did you get results on my test back yet?”  “Oh yes,” she said.  When she didn’t elaborate, he still had to ask, “Were they good?”  Then she said, “Yeah, they were good”.  She sort of had this fake smile.  “Were they clear?”  And finally she told them that yes, they were clear.  It’s almost like she knew what our decision would be if his tests were clear, so she didn’t want to tell us. 

Thankfully, other than our experience with Dr. Kurt when all this was going on, our experience was wonderful at the DeVos Children’s Hospital.  My husband and I are SO grateful to Jacob’s surgeon, the nurses were great, and overall his care was very good until all of this started happening, other than the fact that their minds were closed about anything beyond the ‘standard protocol’ of care.”  That was very frustrating for us.”

The day that we found out that Jacob’s PET Scan was clear, the social worker asked Erin if she could talk to Dr. Kurt about how she made Erin feel harassed about making a decision about radiation.  I remember Dr. Kurt called to apologize later that day.  I sat next to Erin and listened in on the conversation as Dr. Kurt proceeded to tell her that she just wanted this for Jacob SO bad and that she cares about him SO much and that he needs this radiation and 12 more rounds of chemo.  Erin reminded Dr. Kurt that SHE was the mother and NO ONE cares about Jacob more than her.

A couple days later, Erin and the boys packed their bags and headed home for some much needed family time with Ken.  That is when Ken and Erin had time to talk over their plans of what to do next.  On July 14th, the HDCH social worker called to get Erin’s final answer on whether or not they would be doing radiation.  Erin told her no and she said that she would then be forced to file a petition with the court.

Dr. Sarah Brown at DeVos Children’s Hospital and Dr. Lisa Markman at C.S. Mott Children’s Hospital both made child abuse allegations of ‘medical neglect’, but to this day, the family has never met either one of them.

On July 15th, the family woke up to the Child Protective Services knocking on their door. 

I don’t think they were prepared for what they found.  Erin was an educated woman who had done TONS of research.  She piled stacks and stacks of information in front of the two social workers sent from CPS.  They were in awe and seemed confused on what they were supposed to do.

These parents weren’t negligent or abusive…they weren’t ignorant or avoiding further treatment because it “made Jacob upset”. 

They knew their facts.  Erin mentioned that they would be leaving in 10 days for the alternative treatment center and one of the social workers…we’ll call him “Josh”…didn’t seem to think it would be a problem.  Erin and Jacob left on the 25th of July as planned, and within a week, Jacob’s hair started growing back, his color was reappearing…he looked like his old self again!  (He is now 10 years old.)

It was around this time that Erin and Ken sent Jacob’s slides to U of M for a second opinion. 

The pathologist told Erin on the phone that he was pretty sure it was Ewing’s and that it had similar characteristics.  When they returned to my house on August 20th, they came back to my road lined with family and friends wearing their Hope for Jacob t-shirts and holding signs.  It was a very emotional moment that still causes me to get choked up when I think about it.  Jacob and Erin were completely shocked, especially when they found Ken hiding around the corner.  We talked and laughed the whole night…we even had lights strung up around my barn and had a “dance party”.  The kids entertained us with their moves the entire evening.
We they returned home, August 29th, “Josh” told them that the case would be closed by Friday.   Friday came, and no word.  On Wednesday, September 7th, Erin came home to a note in the door from Josh.  It said to call him right away.

He told her that the Child Protection Services was ready to drop the case, but the Department of Human Services out of Lansing had decided to filed a petition.

The following weeks were completely chaotic.  We began writing letters to Stabenow, Levin and Snyder, begging them to get involved and have this case dropped.  We urged our friends and family to do the same.  The people that received a reply from Levin and Stabenow were told that they do not get involved in court cases.  No one that we know of ever heard from Rick Snyder.

The prosecuting attorney denied the case and refused to have any involvement.  The DHS had to then hire a private attorney, Dianne Heitman.  There was a hearing on September 9th, but then it was postponed until the 19th due to the fact that the court had never appointed Jacob a lawyer (the child himself ALWAYS gets their own lawyer in cases like these).

No representation for the child = a big “no no”. 

When they returned on the 19th, the judge had revealed that Dr. Lisa Markman had called him to discuss the case and “urged” him to make the ruling in the DHS’ favor.  When Erin read the report later that week, it was said that Dr. Markman identified herself as Jacob’s “treating physician”.  Erin was furious.  Dr. Markman had never even met with Jacob and Erin.  (Did this have to do with the 2nd opinion from U of M?  Or did Dr. Kurt have a connection with Dr. Markman?  How else could she have learned about the case?)  With that, the judge had to recuse himself.

On September 15th, Jacob had another PET scan.  This too came back clear.  Praise God! 

They scheduled it earlier than the 3 month schedule hoping it would help their case, but it did not.  They were told it was more about parents rights than Jacob’s health.

Around this same time, Liz contacted Michael Farris, a well-respected lawyer who has been an advocate for homeschoolers AND parental rights for years. That same day, Erin received a call from Farris.  He was sitting in a parking garage in Washington D.C. and had just read Liz’s e-mail.  He was shocked that this was happening and offered his services.  YES!!!!!!!  God continued to place the right people in Erin and Ken’s lives as they needed them.  And Michael Farris would play a huge part in this trial!  (www.parentalrights.org)

I can’t even begin to write about all of the nonsense that has happened since October, let alone since March.  Every day, there seems to be a change, whether good or bad.  We’ve all learned to be patient, trust God (because He is definitely up to something BIG) and not dwell on anything…because it could change in 5 minutes.

A second judge was forced to recuse herself, also, because the head of the DHS in Marquette discussed the trial with her.
The hearing would now be a jury trial…but it was postponed…AGAIN.  It would be rescheduled for the week of December 5th.  NOPE…the lawyer for DHS ‘wasn’t prepared’ — so it was rescheduled AGAIN for the week of January 10th.  (If they are so concerned about Jacob’s well-being and supposedly every minute that Jacob’s not doing treatment he’s that much closer to death, why are the hospital and DHS dragging this out for so long?!)

Sisters: Liz, Erin, Rachel

Erin has handled this horrifying year better than I ever imagined or ever could have myself.  

She has put her trust in God from the beginning and told me recently that she recalls praying one day (not long before Jacob was flown down) that God would just draw her closer to Him. She told me she joked afterwards, “But God, nothing too big, okay?“.  Man, did God take her seriously.  But He has never left her side.  She was like a machine throughout their months at the hospital.  She constantly took notes and kept record of everything.  She looked tired and often seemed like her mind was somewhere else. She is one strong woman, though!  And throughout all of this, Ken has become closer to God, as well.  Actually…all of us have.  Liz, Erin, Neil and I grew up in a Christian home.  We’ve all had a relationship with God since we can remember, although, like most people, the relationship has had it’s ups and downs.  But like I mentioned in my bajillion-page novel (ha!) we’ve been amazed how God has worked all of this out.

Many have asked why Erin and Ken allowed Jacob to do chemo in the first place.

Well..they didn’t really have a choice.  He was flown down for one thing, and before they knew it, he was diagnosed with cancer.  We’ve thought a lot about the “what-ifs”.  Jacob needed physical therapy.  He could barely stand up.  If they had denied treatment, PT would not have been an option.  And also, God sometimes gives us perspective on things by allowing us to experience them.  It says in the Bible that we should comfort those who suffer just like God comforted us when we suffered.  Erin and Ken now know what chemo and radiation is about.  We all do.  We have learned so much throughout the months that I know life can never go back to the way it was.  And I don’t want it to.  Erin feels like it is her calling to help other parents facing the same issues.  I would love to do the same, even if it’s by making phone calls and writing letters.

Letters written to the director of the DHS in Lansing would be appreciated! :)  (See below!)  Thank you, everyone, for your support!

Keep Tweeting and Facebooking and telling others about this case!

***Don’t forget to keep watching my Kitchen Kop Facebook wall and the Hope for Jacob wall to stay updated on the latest plan to help the Stielers.  THANK YOU!

DONATE IF YOU CAN?

If you could go to the Hope for Jacob site and help the Stielers with legal costs it would be HUGE.  Even $5.  Thank you so much for your care and compassion for this family.  :)

Scroll down for names and addresses. 

***Please don’t forget to comment below to tell us who you contacted so the Stielers can see all the support out there for them!

Related posts and links that you’ll want to check out:

  • The grim truth about America’s so-called war on cancer
  • Erin Stieler’s radio interview with Dave Gahary (American Free Press)
  • A movie you can watch on this same subject:  Overruled, the Movie
  • You can also find more information at ParentalRights.org – they are fighting for JUST these types of rights to not be taken away from parents!
  • Another shocking story that Heather wrote about recently:  War on cancer? Nope, it’s a war on cancer patients.  “Jim’s son was diagnosed with a very rare form of brain cancer that had a 0% success rate with conventional treatment. Dr. Burzynski was having really good results with brain cancer so they tried to take him there. Unfortunately the FDA blocked him from receiving treatment and CPS threatened to take all their children away if they didn’t submit to conventional treatment.  In the end they did submit in the hopes that as a last ditch effort the FDA would let them see Dr. Burzynski when conventional treatment failed. It did fail and they did get to Dr. Burzynski. They saw a dramatic 30% reduction in tumors before the boy died of chemotherapy poisoning.”  Is this for real?!!!  In AMERICA?!  The land of the free?!

Contact info – THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!!!!

  • DHS Director, Maura D. Corrigan, P.O. Box 30037, Lansing, MI 48909, (517) 373-2035 – writing a snail mail letter is best, but better-than-nothing would be to let her office know what you think on this contact form.  If anyone can track down her direct email, please let me know!

Board of Trustees, Helen DeVos Children’s Hospital:

  • Donnalee Holton (Board Chair), 4438 Mystic Ridge Ct NE,Grand Rapids, MI 49525-9464
  • Patricia Betz (Vice Chair), 1780 Old Woods Ct. NE, Ada, MI 49301-9695
  • Vicki Weaver (President), c/o Helen DeVos Children’s Hospital, 100 Michigan NE, Grand Rapids, MI 49503
  • Dick DeVos (Honorary), c/o Helen DeVos Children’s Hospital, 100 Michigan NE, Grand Rapids, MI 49503
  • Dr. Lisa R. Markman, Associate Director of Child Protection, University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, MI
  • Dr. Beth Anne Kurt, Helen DeVos Children’s Hospital, Hematology/Oncology MC249, 100 Michigan NE Floor 10, Grand Rapids, MI 49503
  • Dr. Sarah Jane Brown, DeVos Children’s Hospital, Center for Child Protection MC178, 545 Michigan NE Ste 203, Grand Rapids, MI 49503

Can you think of any more addresses or email addresses I should include?  Send them to me and I’ll add them!

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    1 Heather December 9, 2011 at 9:03 am

    Kelly, I wonder if a petition on change.org or care2.com would help? I believe anyone can set one up for free, and it might help! This is horrible and needs to stop!

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    2 Hokey December 9, 2011 at 10:15 am

    Heather is absolutely right and a petition may be a lot faster to get the point across to DHS. Here’s hoping this ends in favor of Jacob receiving naturopathic treatment and adequate follow-up care that conventional medicine seems unable to achieve.

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    3 Pak December 9, 2011 at 10:41 am

    Kelly,
    God bless you for raising awareness about Jacob. It chills me to the bone that this is happening to this loving and kind family.

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    4 Pat Robinson December 9, 2011 at 11:49 am

    This is the individual oncology practice’s “standard of care” for his patients, or this hospital’s “standard of care”. There is no such medical or legal “standard of care” according to the American Society of Clinical Oncology:

    “The standards are not medical advice or legal advice. To the extent that the standards conflict with applicable federal, state, or local legal requirements, practitioners should comply with those requirements. The administering agent is solely responsible for, and assumes all risks of, administering chemotherapy drugs notwithstanding any adherence to the standards herein. ASCO and ONS disclaim any and all liability with respect to the standards and the execution of the standards by any party.”

    Does the doctor “assume all risks of, administering chemotherapy drugs”?

    http://www.asco.org/ASCOv2/Practice+%26+Guidelines/Quality+Care/Quality+Measurement+%26+Improvement/ASCO-ONS+Standards+for+Safe+Chemotherapy+Administration

    Pat Robinson

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    5 megan December 9, 2011 at 12:51 pm

    I mailed a letter to the DHS director, Maura Corrigan, this morning. I’m praying for this family and thank you, Kelly, for bringing this to our attention. I have no oidea what decision we would make in this situation, but I absolutely want the choice to decdie as a family, not be told what to do. God bless!

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    6 KitchenKop December 9, 2011 at 12:54 pm

    Megan, you and everyone else who is writing are AWESOME, thank you all so much! I’m getting my snail mail letter out today. :)

    Kel

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    7 megan December 9, 2011 at 1:04 pm

    I wish there was more I could do, but I’m glad to help in a small way from all the way in Georgia! : )

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    8 Pat Robinson December 9, 2011 at 12:53 pm

    Apparently, the most important person to request to drop the case is Maura D. Corrigan, Director of the Michigan Department of Human Services. http://www.mi.gov/dhs/0,4562,7-124-5459_7097—,00.html

    P.O. Box 30037
    Lansing, Michigan 48909
    Telephone: (517) 373-2035
    Fax: (517) 335-6101
    Email: dhsweb@michigan.gov

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    9 Pat Robinson December 9, 2011 at 1:33 pm

    Just contacted the Republican Party, the Democratic Party, the ACLU of Michigan, and the philanthropic grant foundation for the Helen DeVos Children’s Hospital regarding this Parental Rights issue.

    http://www.aclumich.org/
    http://www.dmdevosfoundation.org/ContactInfo.aspx

    Pat Robinson

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    10 Angie December 9, 2011 at 1:45 pm

    I agree that one, easy petition might be a good idea…it seems more likely to go viral that way.

    Also, I’d like to add something that might be a bit unpopular. It is, however, coming from a place of deep empathy for this family’s struggle. Our family went through something similar. It dragged on for years. It was horrible. And boy, did I despise nearly every professional (& there were a LOT of them) who was trying to tell us what to do with our children. It was such a life-altering experience, I later became a social worker, to help other people who might land in situations like ours. Now I have somewhat of an “insider’s” perspective as well & can see some ways I could have made it a little easier on myself back then.

    Let me be clear: I absolutely support this family’s fight for their child & would do the same thing. Fury is not unjustified here. I would suggest, though, that they conserve their anger & use it for the energy to fight the various systems they’re up against. Don’t get caught up in demonizing particular individuals, in other words. They’re just people, too. Chances are they actually do care about Jacob, in their way. They probably genuinely think this is what’s best for him. That doesn’t mean they’re right, or that they have the right. But it does mean they’re caught up in the overarching systems (western medical beliefs, hospital policies, state agencies, etc.) as well.

    Also, going public is a great idea. Just be careful about language usage. Sticking to the facts, without judgment of individuals (“whiny voice,” etc.), can save some heartache down the road. For one thing, using judgmental language can offend the wrong people, which, I’m afraid, does make a difference in a courtroom. For another, it can brand the family as “hysterical” & “vindictive,” which would be awfully convenient about now for the other side….

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    11 KitchenKop December 9, 2011 at 3:01 pm

    That is really truly great advice, thank you so much for sharing it. (I’ve edited that word out, too, because you’re right, it doesn’t help anything.)

    And it’s funny you say this because just yesterday I spoke with Erin, Jacob’s Mom, on the phone and we were talking about all the GOOD experiences they had at DeVos Children’s Hospital and about how Dr. Kurt was always very kind to Jacob. I’m sure she’s very good-hearted and I highly doubt that she’s a “power-hungry” or “money-hungry” doctor. Erin & I agreed that most likely she just has a misguided sense of what is best for Jacob and she truly thinks she’s helping him. The fact remains that it’s not her choice to make or the CPS’ choice.

    How cool that you went into social work to help just these types of families, God bless you for that!

    Kelly

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    12 Erin Stieler December 10, 2011 at 9:08 am

    I agree with you Angie! As the mom in this case, I have tried to keep the facts as just facts and not bring emotion into it or specific names of people involved. However, my sisters have told their side and that is their choice to do so.

    I will continue to tell the facts as they happened. I don’t feel like I need to throw the emotional part into it. It’s certainly not needed. The facts themselves are disgusting enough with all feelings set aside.

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    13 Hayley December 12, 2011 at 11:14 pm

    Erin, I don’t know if you’ll see this, but I want you to know that I am praying for you and your family.

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    14 Jeanmarie December 10, 2011 at 12:39 am

    Kelly, bless you for publicizing this shocking case. How bureaucrats and doctors can so callously disregard the needs and wishes of children and parents that clearly have their act together just boggles my mind… this is just all so bogus. Every case like this — and I include raw milk dairy raids, forced vaccination, medical marijuana raids, homeschooling raids, artisanal food producer raids, etc etc — must be publicized and fought or we will continue to lose our freedom of choice.

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    15 Jen @ BigBinder December 10, 2011 at 3:32 pm

    I am not one to jump to conclusions and react quickly; thank you so much for organizing this information and giving the narrative. The Stielers are blessed to have you. OK I have some thoughts that I’ll bring in that come from several years of advocating for various children’s issues…

    I do believe HDVCH can’t talk about the case because of HIPPA, I don’t think they should move all of the social media comments off of the front page (that’s a social media opinion, not a legal one), and I am thinking that directing the effort and the initiative to DHS is the most appropriate and potentially effective use of everyone’s efforts. Also, Levin and Stabenow are United States Legislators so they probably wouldn’t have any impact unless there are federal laws surrounding the case.

    Since these are state laws/statutes the best political moves would be towards the Stielers’ State Representative and Senator for intervention. Also, I don’t know what committee it would be but maybe someone who is following this might know what Michigan Legislature Committee oversees such laws – if anyone can get an answer about what exactly the law or statue is that required the hospital to report this case in the first place.

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    16 Dawn Turner December 10, 2011 at 5:42 pm

    This case breaks my heart, and it’s just one more example of how much the medical industry “cares” about patients. NOT!!! For those who haven’t yet seen it, do watch “Cut Poison Burn” (the trailer is available at the link Kelly provides above under related posts/links for the “so-called war on cancer”). I saw the whole movie/video when it first came out and was horrified. I’ve studied cancer therapies in-depth over the last several years and heard first hand some of the things people have been sold on, but some of the information that single video provided sort of blindsided even me. I had to watch the video for a short bit, pause it and walk away, then come back to watch some more. Took me all blasted afternoon to make it all the way through the entire thing because there was so much information, and I needed time to assimilate it all. Plus it highlights a case very similar to Jacob’s, only one that didn’t end well. Another case where the industry claimed to be concerned about a child’s health and welfare and caused huge delays in his treatment. Seeing cases like this one with Jacob shows how far they are willing to go to FORCE people to comply with their desire for money. And make no mistake about it, though there are people in this industry who genuinely care about people, what drives the industry itself is greed, pure and simple.

    I, too, have to wonder — if they truly care so much about Jacob’s health, as they claim in trying for force his parents to let them needlessly poison (and quite possibly kill) him – why do they keep delaying the court proceedings? You’d think they’re be desperate to expedite this. Apparently, they aren’t as concerned about his health as they are pretending to be. Money drives this. $60,000 a month for treatments? That’s certainly motivation to try to destroy parental rights. All the motivation some need. :-(

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    17 ValerieH December 12, 2011 at 8:58 am

    If the family lost their insurance coverage, how would the hospital treat this case? I wonder how many poor families have had kids with cancer at this hospital.

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    18 Camille December 12, 2011 at 4:14 pm

    I’m trying to figure out where the “injury” part of DHS’s case is. Jacob is no longer sick so there’s no reason to continue to treat him. And that’s just basic law! I have a hard time seeing how a motion to dismiss would not be granted because there is no harm.

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    19 Wani December 12, 2011 at 4:50 pm

    Thank you for helping to get the word out on this case. We were disappointed with our hospital birth experience with my first son (an unnecessary cesarean) and have had two successful, healthy homebirths since then. While I am thankful for modern medicine I think all to often people have a blind trust in this system that is clearly flawed. Praying for Jacob’s family during this time.

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    20 Laura's Last Ditch--Adventures in Thrift Land December 13, 2011 at 12:00 am

    I’ve just written eight postcards to send out tomorrow. The charges are ridiculous. I know this could be us. Blessings to the Stieler family.

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    21 Laura's Last Ditch--Adventures in Thrift Land December 13, 2011 at 12:03 am

    And I’ve just donated.

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    22 Kara December 21, 2011 at 10:18 am

    I have to admit, I read this story with a lot of shock. I’m a hospital social worker in a pediatric hospital, though I don’t work in oncology, and I have such a hard time seeing this kind of scenario play out in my hospital. Usually the ethical scenarios we experience are the parents that want to continue aggressive treatment for their child at all costs, when the prognosis is poor and the physician feels they have exhausted medical care options for the child. The result is a seriously suffering child, with medical staff being asked to provide care that only prolongs the inevitable. The Steiler’s situation is so unusual, from my experience. Especially in a hem/onc setting, where the rate of success for chemo is only around 40%. As a social worker, I can’t imagine ever hotlining a family based on the information that’s been provided thus far. It’s horrible this family has come to a lawsuit and this parenting decision being taken out of their hands.

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    23 Megan @ Purple Dancing Dahlias May 18, 2012 at 5:20 pm

    Our son’s story is so similar.

    http://purpledancingdahlias.blogspot.com/p/our-childhood-cancer-journey.html

    This is our page for our sons cancer. They didn’t even tell us the results of his test until he had already started his fourth round of chemotherapy which caused high frequency hearing loss in both ears. The tumor was gone and AFP levels were in totally normal range, but they “have” to follow the “standard of care” protocol and knew I would fight them on it so decided not to tell us until round four was underway.

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