Comments on: Do You Take Supplements As An Insurance Policy? (Part 4 on our CA trip) http://kellythekitchenkop.com/2009/08/do-you-take-supplements-as-an-insurance-policy-part-4-on-our-ca-trip.html Mon, 15 Mar 2010 11:16:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: CatholicMom.com » Columnists Kelly the Kitchen Kop » Do You Take Supplements as an Insurance Policy by Kelly the Kitchen Kop http://kellythekitchenkop.com/2009/08/do-you-take-supplements-as-an-insurance-policy-part-4-on-our-ca-trip.html/comment-page-1#comment-28409 CatholicMom.com » Columnists Kelly the Kitchen Kop » Do You Take Supplements as an Insurance Policy by Kelly the Kitchen Kop Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:30:48 +0000 http://kellythekitchenkop.com/2009/08/do-you-take-supplements-as-an-insurance-policy-part-4-on-our-ca-trip.html#comment-28409 [...] more:  Do You Take Supplements as an “Insurance Policy”? Tagged as: Nutrition, Supplements Kelly the Kitchen Kop - Kelly the Kitchen Kop is a Catholic [...] [...] more:  Do You Take Supplements as an “Insurance Policy”? Tagged as: Nutrition, Supplements Kelly the Kitchen Kop – Kelly the Kitchen Kop is a Catholic [...]

]]> By: KitchenKop http://kellythekitchenkop.com/2009/08/do-you-take-supplements-as-an-insurance-policy-part-4-on-our-ca-trip.html/comment-page-1#comment-26639 KitchenKop Fri, 14 Aug 2009 02:15:20 +0000 http://kellythekitchenkop.com/2009/08/do-you-take-supplements-as-an-insurance-policy-part-4-on-our-ca-trip.html#comment-26639 Tina, it drives me crazy that soy is everywhere! Tina, it drives me crazy that soy is everywhere!

]]> By: Tina http://kellythekitchenkop.com/2009/08/do-you-take-supplements-as-an-insurance-policy-part-4-on-our-ca-trip.html/comment-page-1#comment-26451 Tina Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:10:15 +0000 http://kellythekitchenkop.com/2009/08/do-you-take-supplements-as-an-insurance-policy-part-4-on-our-ca-trip.html#comment-26451 I emailed Garden of Life regarding Olde World Icelandic Lemon Mint Flavor CLO to see if it contained soy. I thought it did after I saw alpha tocopherol (vitamin E) in the ingredient list. I got a response from Garden of Life and sure enough it does contain soy oil. Here's the response: Tina, Thank you for your email and interest in Garden of Life's products. The alpha tocopherol used in our Olde World Icelandic Cod Liver Oil is sourced from soy oil. If you're trying to avoid soy then this product may not be for you. I emailed Garden of Life regarding Olde World Icelandic Lemon Mint Flavor CLO to see if it contained soy. I thought it did after I saw alpha tocopherol (vitamin E) in the ingredient list. I got a response from Garden of Life and sure enough it does contain soy oil.

Here’s the response:
Tina,
Thank you for your email and interest in Garden of Life’s products. The
alpha tocopherol used in our Olde World Icelandic Cod Liver Oil is
sourced from soy oil.

If you’re trying to avoid soy then this product may not be for you.

]]> By: Ben http://kellythekitchenkop.com/2009/08/do-you-take-supplements-as-an-insurance-policy-part-4-on-our-ca-trip.html/comment-page-1#comment-26376 Ben Thu, 13 Aug 2009 04:23:24 +0000 http://kellythekitchenkop.com/2009/08/do-you-take-supplements-as-an-insurance-policy-part-4-on-our-ca-trip.html#comment-26376 @ Kay, I understand your thinking as there are so many brands out there. I think the best way to look at it is to find a company that is reputable, utilizes whole plant foods, uses organic farming, and has conducted clinical trials for their products. Then see which products best fit your budget and lifestyle. @ Becks, the articles you've linked to are very interesting. I have just read an interesting book however that has over 900 scientific references referring to how diet, exercise, supplementation, and a variety of other topics relates to a person's optimal health. The book is called The Optimal Health Revolution and its written by Dr. Duke Johnson who is one of the doctors at the Nutrilite center for Optimal Health. The book does not endorse Nutrilite or Amway, and it was written for the lay person to better understand how to improve their health. http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Optimal-Health-Revolution/Duke-Johnson/e/9781933771823/?itm=1 Hope that helps! @ Kay, I understand your thinking as there are so many brands out there. I think the best way to look at it is to find a company that is reputable, utilizes whole plant foods, uses organic farming, and has conducted clinical trials for their products. Then see which products best fit your budget and lifestyle.

@ Becks, the articles you’ve linked to are very interesting. I have just read an interesting book however that has over 900 scientific references referring to how diet, exercise, supplementation, and a variety of other topics relates to a person’s optimal health.
The book is called The Optimal Health Revolution and its written by Dr. Duke Johnson who is one of the doctors at the Nutrilite center for Optimal Health. The book does not endorse Nutrilite or Amway, and it was written for the lay person to better understand how to improve their health.
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Optimal-Health-Revolution/Duke-Johnson/e/9781933771823/?itm=1

Hope that helps!

]]> By: Sustainable Eats http://kellythekitchenkop.com/2009/08/do-you-take-supplements-as-an-insurance-policy-part-4-on-our-ca-trip.html/comment-page-1#comment-26176 Sustainable Eats Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:51:46 +0000 http://kellythekitchenkop.com/2009/08/do-you-take-supplements-as-an-insurance-policy-part-4-on-our-ca-trip.html#comment-26176 No, it's not made by Amway but they employ the same multi-level marketing sales techniques that Amway does. I just wish you could buy it a month at a time instead of signing on for an indefinite term and then have to deal with a salesperson rather than just buy it from the store or a website. You essentially get 13 dehydrated, organic fruits & veggies each day, many of which you would not normally get in your diet but are superfoods or would be difficult to eat in one day like kale, cabbage, spinach, broccoli, parsley, beet, carrot in the veggie blend. I could never eat all those things in one day. Right now getting enough zucchini & tomatoes is a piece of cake though! No, it’s not made by Amway but they employ the same multi-level marketing sales techniques that Amway does. I just wish you could buy it a month at a time instead of signing on for an indefinite term and then have to deal with a salesperson rather than just buy it from the store or a website. You essentially get 13 dehydrated, organic fruits & veggies each day, many of which you would not normally get in your diet but are superfoods or would be difficult to eat in one day like kale, cabbage, spinach, broccoli, parsley, beet, carrot in the veggie blend. I could never eat all those things in one day. Right now getting enough zucchini & tomatoes is a piece of cake though!

]]> By: KitchenKop http://kellythekitchenkop.com/2009/08/do-you-take-supplements-as-an-insurance-policy-part-4-on-our-ca-trip.html/comment-page-1#comment-25995 KitchenKop Wed, 12 Aug 2009 06:26:16 +0000 http://kellythekitchenkop.com/2009/08/do-you-take-supplements-as-an-insurance-policy-part-4-on-our-ca-trip.html#comment-25995 Annette/Sus.Eats, That's interesting what a difference you noticed. Wonder what is in it that you're not getting from the veggies in your garden?? Juice Plus is made by Amway? Sorry for my ignorance, but if so I didn't know that... (It's late, I may have misunderstood your comment, too.) Kelly Annette/Sus.Eats,
That’s interesting what a difference you noticed. Wonder what is in it that you’re not getting from the veggies in your garden??

Juice Plus is made by Amway? Sorry for my ignorance, but if so I didn’t know that… (It’s late, I may have misunderstood your comment, too.)

Kelly

]]> By: Sustainable Eats http://kellythekitchenkop.com/2009/08/do-you-take-supplements-as-an-insurance-policy-part-4-on-our-ca-trip.html/comment-page-1#comment-25994 Sustainable Eats Wed, 12 Aug 2009 06:21:44 +0000 http://kellythekitchenkop.com/2009/08/do-you-take-supplements-as-an-insurance-policy-part-4-on-our-ca-trip.html#comment-25994 I'm with Becks here. I will never spend a dime on isolated vitamins after researching them. We do, however, take Juice Plus which is a plant based "whole food" supplement (juiced dehydrated fruits & veggies. I hate their Amway culture though, you can't buy it in stores and have to go through a pusher to get them. I signed on as a pusher just to get the discount and avoid dealing with a pusher (is that empowerment or pandering to the system? In any way it saves us money.) We only take the capsules since the shake has soy in it but some of the protein does come from garbanzo beans and it's sweetened with stevia so as far as meal shakes go it's pretty good. Not as good as Kelly's though. I would love to experiment with dehydrating my own fruits & veggies to powder and add to our smoothies but right now we have pledged to only eat local foods and many of the things that are keeping us healthy aren't grown in Washington state, like citrus for instance. We ran out last month and there was a two week lag to get more, coupled with the fact that I had been experimenting with cutting back on the dose for a few months to save money and I got more and more drained despite the fact that we eat a ton of fresh veggies from our own garden. I'm back on the bus again. I’m with Becks here. I will never spend a dime on isolated vitamins after researching them. We do, however, take Juice Plus which is a plant based “whole food” supplement (juiced dehydrated fruits & veggies. I hate their Amway culture though, you can’t buy it in stores and have to go through a pusher to get them. I signed on as a pusher just to get the discount and avoid dealing with a pusher (is that empowerment or pandering to the system? In any way it saves us money.)

We only take the capsules since the shake has soy in it but some of the protein does come from garbanzo beans and it’s sweetened with stevia so as far as meal shakes go it’s pretty good. Not as good as Kelly’s though.

I would love to experiment with dehydrating my own fruits & veggies to powder and add to our smoothies but right now we have pledged to only eat local foods and many of the things that are keeping us healthy aren’t grown in Washington state, like citrus for instance.

We ran out last month and there was a two week lag to get more, coupled with the fact that I had been experimenting with cutting back on the dose for a few months to save money and I got more and more drained despite the fact that we eat a ton of fresh veggies from our own garden. I’m back on the bus again.

]]> By: Becks http://kellythekitchenkop.com/2009/08/do-you-take-supplements-as-an-insurance-policy-part-4-on-our-ca-trip.html/comment-page-1#comment-23791 Becks Tue, 04 Aug 2009 04:56:14 +0000 http://kellythekitchenkop.com/2009/08/do-you-take-supplements-as-an-insurance-policy-part-4-on-our-ca-trip.html#comment-23791 Ok, I'm going to come out of the closet and tell everyone that I am a vitamin hater. I HATE vitamin supplements. I think they are worse than useless for people with access to good nutrition, and might even be harmful. In fact, I think I'm sort of scratching my head because it seems illogical to me to reject factory farmed meat, non-traditional food preparation practices or ingredients, seed oils, etc. and embrace synthetic nutrition, especially in mass quantities, which would be virtually impossible to consume by eating real food. I'm pretty sure that vitamin supplements are about as "new food" (food my great grandmother wouldn't recognize as food) as it gets! Further, I think that vitamin supplements are at root cause of the rampant malnutrition in our country, because it masks the very malnutrition it seeks to prevent. People feel comfortable on a diet of big macs and french fries, so they don't crave real nutritious food. Vitamins mask their hunger for real nutrition with synthetic nutrition. Except in cases of actual malnutrition or vitamin deficiency (and this should hardly be a problem for we who live in the wealthiest nation on Earth), vitamin supplements have been shown to have exactly zero health benefits, and can actually be detrimental to your health in numerous controlled, double-blind studies. I've been collecting articles about this, if anyone wants to read them! <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/17/health/17well.html" rel="nofollow">Vitamin Pills: A False Hope</a> - New York Times <a href="http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/02/09/study-finds-no-benefit-from-daily-multivitamin/" rel="nofollow">Study Finds No Benefit From Daily Multivitamin</a> - New York Times <a href="http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/11/20/news-keeps-getting-worse-for-vitamins/" rel="nofollow">News Keeps Getting Worse for Vitamins</a> - New York Times <a href="http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/02/16/the-vitamin-problem/" rel="nofollow">The Vitamin Problem</a> - New York Times <a href="http://www.annals.org/cgi/content/full/142/1/75" rel="nofollow">Vitamin E Supplements: Good in Theory, But is the Theory Good?</a> - Annals of Internal Medicine <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/24/health/24brod.html" rel="nofollow">Extra Vitamin E: No Benefit, Maybe Harm</a> <a href="http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10/28/disappointing-news-on-vitamin-e-and-selenium/" rel="nofollow">Dissapointing News on Vitamin E and Selenium</a>- New York Times <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/18/health/research/18nutr.html" rel="nofollow">Vitamins Seen as No Help in Heart Disease</a> - New York Times <a href="http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10/01/vitamin-c-may-interfere-with-cancer-treatment/" rel="nofollow">Vitamin C May Interfere with Cancer Treatment</a> - New York Times <a href="http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A07EFD7113EF93AA25752C1A96E9C8B63" rel="nofollow">Study: Vitamins E and C Fail to Prevent Cancer in Men</a> - New York Times <a href="http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/06/despite-risks-vitamins-popular-with-cancer-patients/" rel="nofollow">Despite Risks, Vitamins Popular with Cancer Patients</a> - New York Times <a href="http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/15/multivitamins-linked-with-breast-density/" rel="nofollow">Multivitamins Linked with Breast Density</a> - New York Times <a href="http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/06/08/worries-about-antioxidant-use-by-breast-cancer-patients/" rel="nofollow">Concern About Antioxidants and Breast Cancer</a> Ok, I’m going to come out of the closet and tell everyone that I am a vitamin hater. I HATE vitamin supplements. I think they are worse than useless for people with access to good nutrition, and might even be harmful. In fact, I think I’m sort of scratching my head because it seems illogical to me to reject factory farmed meat, non-traditional food preparation practices or ingredients, seed oils, etc. and embrace synthetic nutrition, especially in mass quantities, which would be virtually impossible to consume by eating real food. I’m pretty sure that vitamin supplements are about as “new food” (food my great grandmother wouldn’t recognize as food) as it gets! Further, I think that vitamin supplements are at root cause of the rampant malnutrition in our country, because it masks the very malnutrition it seeks to prevent. People feel comfortable on a diet of big macs and french fries, so they don’t crave real nutritious food. Vitamins mask their hunger for real nutrition with synthetic nutrition.

Except in cases of actual malnutrition or vitamin deficiency (and this should hardly be a problem for we who live in the wealthiest nation on Earth), vitamin supplements have been shown to have exactly zero health benefits, and can actually be detrimental to your health in numerous controlled, double-blind studies. I’ve been collecting articles about this, if anyone wants to read them!

Vitamin Pills: A False Hope – New York Times

Study Finds No Benefit From Daily Multivitamin – New York Times

News Keeps Getting Worse for Vitamins – New York Times

The Vitamin Problem – New York Times

Vitamin E Supplements: Good in Theory, But is the Theory Good? – Annals of Internal Medicine

Extra Vitamin E: No Benefit, Maybe Harm

Dissapointing News on Vitamin E and Selenium- New York Times

Vitamins Seen as No Help in Heart Disease – New York Times

Vitamin C May Interfere with Cancer Treatment – New York Times

Study: Vitamins E and C Fail to Prevent Cancer in Men – New York Times

Despite Risks, Vitamins Popular with Cancer Patients – New York Times

Multivitamins Linked with Breast Density – New York Times

Concern About Antioxidants and Breast Cancer

]]> By: Soli http://kellythekitchenkop.com/2009/08/do-you-take-supplements-as-an-insurance-policy-part-4-on-our-ca-trip.html/comment-page-1#comment-23764 Soli Tue, 04 Aug 2009 02:28:56 +0000 http://kellythekitchenkop.com/2009/08/do-you-take-supplements-as-an-insurance-policy-part-4-on-our-ca-trip.html#comment-23764 Hi Erin, I found out about 5-HTP many years ago when I was investigating alternatives for antidepressant prescription drugs. First I was taking St John's wort, but that also made me very lethargic. 5-htp is a seratonin and is thought to act in the brain in a similar manner, to up those levels and help even out mood. I don't recall what the exact effects are, but I do know I've been taking it a long time and haven't had anywhere near the issues I used to with sinking into depression periods. I'm not online much this week due to being on vacation, but I will try to check in and add more as I can. Hi Erin,

I found out about 5-HTP many years ago when I was investigating alternatives for antidepressant prescription drugs. First I was taking St John’s wort, but that also made me very lethargic. 5-htp is a seratonin and is thought to act in the brain in a similar manner, to up those levels and help even out mood. I don’t recall what the exact effects are, but I do know I’ve been taking it a long time and haven’t had anywhere near the issues I used to with sinking into depression periods.
I’m not online much this week due to being on vacation, but I will try to check in and add more as I can.

]]> By: kara bagley http://kellythekitchenkop.com/2009/08/do-you-take-supplements-as-an-insurance-policy-part-4-on-our-ca-trip.html/comment-page-1#comment-23756 kara bagley Tue, 04 Aug 2009 01:56:07 +0000 http://kellythekitchenkop.com/2009/08/do-you-take-supplements-as-an-insurance-policy-part-4-on-our-ca-trip.html#comment-23756 I have felt really great on Standard Process and would love to hear what others think about it. I have felt really great on Standard Process and would love to hear what others think about it.

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