My sister told me that on Oprah’s show last week about “going green“, they were also promoting Shaklee vitamins. I get asked about the topic of supplements a lot, so I’ll try to shed some light it…
Flushing cash down the toilet?
A lot of people have asked me about this issue, and to be honest, it’s a tough one. Sure, there are many stories of people who have had various health problems completely disappear after taking Shaklee or other supplements, but if you’re blessed with good health, you might be like me and don’t feel any different whether you’re taking them or not. Of course that leads you to wonder if you’re just flushing money down the toilet every month. All I can do is tell you what we take and why, and you can decide from there.
Can supplements prevent disease?
I’ll start by telling you that my father-in-law was diagnosed with Alzheimer’s a few years ago, and that was when I really began looking into various supplements. Knowing that early-onset Alzheimer’s is hereditary, I wanted to find out if Kent could take certain vitamins that could possibly prevent him from getting it down the road. What a confusing and time-consuming job that was, trying to wade through the unbelievably huge amount of information out there on that topic.
As many brands as stars in the sky!
And it’s not just the information about what might be helpful in your situation that you have to figure out. It turned out that even worse than figuring out if we should take supplements and which ones, was when I had to figure out which brand of supplements to take. Unless you’ve done any research on that yourself, you have no idea the vast amount of different brands there are. It was overwhelming, to say the least. I did hours and hours of research, and I’ll try to explain to you what conclusions I came to.
It’s the undebated truth, eating well really is better than any supplement
One of the main goals of this site is to help people try to eat better – if we all did that, then just as you’ve heard many times, we really wouldn’t need supplements. If you’re eating a good well-balanced traditional diet, they wouldn’t be necessary, as getting nutrients the natural way is always better. (Especially if you’re eating food from farmers who know how to keep their soil nutrient-rich, but that’s another story…) However, because I just never know if we’re getting “enough” of what we need, even though we eat fairly well, we do still take supplements as an “insurance policy“.
As important as cod liver oil:
One supplement we take is called, “Perfect Food“, and I feel that it’s probably AS important to take as cod liver oil is. Taking this is like eating multiple servings a day of green vegetables, so it’s great for those of us who aren’t able to get as many into our diet as we’d like, especially in the winter months. They also provide anti-oxidants and probiotics (10 strains), both VERY important. What is even better about this supplement is that it contains an enzyme that is found in our stomachs, so it is already pre-digested and our body recognizes it as a “food”, not as a foreign pill.
WHERE TO BUY PERFECT FOOD AND GET THE BEST DEAL:
You can get it here: Garden of Life Perfect Food caplets (or you can do a search at that link to find the powder there, but there’s no way I could drink that stuff.) The link has a special deal that Matt at this online store worked out just for Kitchen Kop readers – I had researched it and found it cheapest somewhere else, so he lowered his price hoping to get our orders. I’ve checked all over and this is a lot cheaper than any of the places I found. In order to match the best deal at the other site I’d found, Matt is also giving us free shipping, but TO GET FREE SHIPPING YOU MUST TYPE IN “free shipping” WHERE IT ASKS FOR “REDEEM CODE” ON THE CHECK-OUT PAGE!
Note: Primal Defense or Primal Defense Ultra (more potent) are stronger probiotics than what is in Perfect Food. Great for constipation, digestive healing, and many similar issues.
Get an even stronger probiotic: GAPS recommended probiotics.
(IMPORTANT NOTE: If you’re wondering whether or not I make any money if you end up buying anything you click on in this post, read #3 at my FAQ post and I’ll answer that question.)
One brand I’ve looked into:
We do also take Shaklee vitamins. No one gave me a sales pitch on them, I found it as I did my own digging, and everything I read talked about how much research they do on their products to make sure they are made well and that they can be assimilated by our bodies well. All this isn’t to say that I believe Shaklee is the only good brand out there, I’m sure there are others. But over and over again, I’d do some research on another supplement, then for various reasons, kept coming back to Shaklee. (I’m surprised they don’t have a good brand of cod liver oil -this post explains why everyone needs to take that and where the best place is get it.)
Major health improvements possible
For some, supplements provide a very real and obvious improvement in their health. My friend, Nancy, had dramatic benefits from taking Shaklee, and there are many stories like hers. (Just as I’m sure there are for other supplements too, but again, I chose to go with the one that I felt has the most research behind it.) E-mail me if you’d like to know where I get Shaklee at member cost with $3 shipping, otherwise you could find a local distributor. Here’s Shaklee’s site if you want to see what they have available.
Will we ever know?
The whole problem, though, is who really knows? You can do all sorts of research like I did to find out which supplements you feel are best, but we may never know if they really can prevent disease. Of course that’s what all the companies say, but when they profit from getting you to buy their products, I’m skeptical.
Is it worth it to you?
My point is that we could be flushing money down the toilet with any supplement we take, but I’ve always said that I’m willing to spend the money on the chance that it could prevent Kent from getting Alzheimer’s, or prevent any of us from getting whatever could have been in our future.
How to figure it all out
There are so many different reasons people take supplements, that there is no way I can do ALL your work and research for you. Here’s my advice for how to figure out for yourself which supplement to take (if any), and what brand:
- Get online and Google like crazy whatever your question or issue is – be sure to read both “sides” – the “conventional” advice and the “natural” advice, then you can use your own judgment to find what is best for you.
- As you’re reading, first be sure to find out if there isn’t a way to get whatever it is that you’re thinking about taking through your diet, in the more natural way.
- If you have found a company for the supplement you’ve decided to take, read about them, what kind of research do they do on their products?
- Ask people you trust for their input, what do they take and why?
- Use common sense! If a company is promising “instant results” or something else that sounds far out, don’t fall for it! Or if there’s an up-front cost or some other fishy way to get your money, stay away from that company, too.
- Lastly, decide if you can afford it, and if the cost is worth the “insurance” to you or not.
Here’s the breakdown on what we take:
- The kids take a Shaklee multi-vitamin and cod liver oil.
- I take a Shaklee multi-vitamin, a Shaklee B vitamin w/ folic acid, cod liver oil capsules, & Perfect Food.
- Kent takes a Shaklee multi-vitamin, cod liver oil capsules, Perfect Food, and also what he calls his, “anti-Alzheimer’s cocktail” – various other Shaklee supplements (and a couple others) that I’ve researched and found could (an expensive word for us!) help prevent or delay an Alzheimer’s diagnosis. (Somehow he swallows them all at once! I can’t even watch him or I gag.)
All-in-one?
My friend, Jen, asked why we don’t just take a vitamin that has everything we need already together in the same supplement? That would be nice, to not have to take as many pills, but the simple answer is that there just isn’t one, not that I’ve found anyway. Even if there was one that I’m not aware of, I’m pretty sure it wouldn’t have the potency that these all have separately.
What’s the bottom line?
If you can only afford to take one supplement, high quality cod liver oil is definitely the one I recommend. Beyond that, the bottom line is this: take whatever supplements you have researched and are willing and able to spend the money on, but more importantly, try to move closer and closer every day to a whole foods, traditional diet, and away from fast-food, processed food, & packaged foods.
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Natalie 01.28.08 at 10:04 am
Here is an easy test to see how quickly your vitamin/supplement dissolves once swallowed.
Put the vitamin in a small cup of vinegar. The vinegar is going to mimic your stomach acids. The ideal is that the vitamin would be totally dissolved within one hour. Now if the vitamin or supplement you are taking is of a time-release variety, this test would not be applicable.
I do this test each time I try a new brand of vitamins and so far all have passed.
Natalie 02.18.08 at 1:06 pm
Does Shaklee make a childrens’ multi-vitamin? If yes, what is it called?
Kelly 02.18.08 at 6:14 pm
Hi Natalie,
Yes, it’s a chewable called, Vita-Lea. 2 of my kids take it without complaint, and our daughter only will take it rarely. She takes her cod liver oil great, though!
Kelly
Nicole 02.21.08 at 12:17 pm
Don’t know how often Natalie checks this but we recently bought the Shaklee’s chewable kids vitamins and the kids like them. They taste kinda like a bottle cap candy to me.
Don’t forget if you (or your kids won’t take them)don’t like the products you can get a refund.
Julie 03.19.08 at 5:11 am
Kelly, I would like to only have to take cod liver oil. My question is this, can I take cod liver oil year round? I sure hear conflicting opinions on this out there. I live in NH, a state not known for it’s sunshine, however in the summer we do get sunny days, interspersed with overcast days.
Kelly 03.19.08 at 11:03 am
Hi Julie,
That’s a great question – if you can jump over to the cod liver oil post (part 1 in the series), I just added more information on that topic toward the end of the post. Here’s the link:
http://www.kellythekitchenkop.com/2007/12/cod-liver-oil-part-1-answers-to-common.html
Thanks, Kelly
Julie 03.19.08 at 2:15 pm
Thank you,Kelly for the cod liver oil information. I jumped over to part 1 of cod liver oil and read up. I will continue to take my cod liver oil and rest easy about it.
Julie 05.06.08 at 4:39 am
HI kelly,
In reading more in “Nourishing Traditions” (the book that keeps on giving!) and also in “Eat fat lose Fat” by the same authors, I have been impressed by what Sally and Mary have to say about “Super Foods”. The ones I am starting to take, along with cod liver oil, are: Nutritional Yeast(Frontier brand is the recommended brand), Acerola in powder form (for vitamin c) Swedish Bitters to help with digestion due to increase in fats in the diet (this is a great product) These are old fashioned, unassuming supplements! I mix the nutritional yeast in water (1.5 Tablespoons in a small amount of water) and down the hatch. I don’t mind the flavor at all. The acerola powder is a very good way to get a good maintenance dose of vitamin c in a very absorbable way. Swedish bitters–I take one teaspoon in the morning. It is bitter, but not bad at all. It has a very regulating affect on digestion, nothing harsh or cramping. It is a bile stimulator. Nutritional Yeast is a good way to get all the b vitamins in. You can read up on these products, except for swedish bitters, at http://www.radiantlifecatalog
Kelly the Kitchen Kop 05.06.08 at 1:14 pm
Julie,
GREAT information! If anyone wants those books, check out my “book suggestions” post. If you buy it through there I get a few cents, and I appreciate any little bit!
Thanks,
Kelly
Lynn 05.30.08 at 7:37 pm
I selling Shaklee in the early 1970s after discovering ‘nutrition’ – Basic H was their flagship product. Since that time I’ve swallowed a fortune in rocks (calcium, magnesium etc.) not to mention algae and yeast. (Adelle Davis had a drink recipe in “Let’s Eat Right to Keep Fit” that could be used on ‘Fear Factor’)
Recently I discovered the brilliant work of Dr. Paul Yanich, MD concerning “fractionated” supplementation. I was drawn initially to his work because he speaks of a natural fermentation process in his products that he calls “synbiotic foodgrown” plus his use of pure essential oil of cinnamon and rosemary as nutritive preservatives. I also took a 3-day seminar with him in 2006. Here’s a link to an interview with him: http://www.quantafoods.com/interview_with_dr.htm
Check out a couple other titles from the menu there for further information.
Kelly the Kitchen Kop 06.01.08 at 2:55 am
Hi Lynn,
I looked around that site some – and agree that getting what our bodies need from the food we eat is always superior. But in your opinion, are you saying you don’t think Shaklee supplements are beneficial, and that they would fall more under the “synthetic” umbrella that Dr. Yanich warns about? I’ve always read that Shaklee was top of the line as far as proper absorption, so I’d be curious what your thoughts are.
Thanks,
Kelly
Lynn 06.01.08 at 8:56 am
Hi Kelly,
Well, it’s like you, yourself, said, “you might be like me and don’t feel any different whether you’re taking them or not”. I spent a fortune on supplements for myself and my husband over a 30 year span, and it’s difficult to tell if our health would have been compromised now had we not done so. In every instance, I was the one finding, buying, and setting them out for us to take. Jim really never felt any different – or so he said. For the past 5 years we have taken no ‘fractionated’ pill or liquid supplements of any kind, and I feel better that I did a decade ago, as does himself.
The point Michael Pollan makes in his newest book, In Defense of Food, An Eater’s Manifesto, is that we have been bamboozled in this country by “The Age of Nutritionism”. The study of nutrition, which has been my field since the early ‘70s, tempts one to see nourishment primarily as the sum of its parts. From there it’s an easy jump back to thinking that the sum of food parts adds up to healthy eating. And since we all have known for ages that the quality of American foodstuffs keeps declining, the conclusion became to add back the missing bits and pieces. Companies arose to meet the demand for supplements that science declared were necessary to maintain health. Since the end of WWII, this ‘take-a-pill’ solution has become ever more accepted until today it’s a multi-billion dollar industry in just supplements alone.
Dr. Y is not saying folks living on the sad SAD (standard American diet) don’t need supplementation. His point is that now we have the benefit of modern biochemistry research that shows metabolism to be infinitely more complex than the vitamin formulators are able to take into account. It’s complicated biochemistry taken to the quantum level, and the profit margin is small compared to the 250% mark-up supplement manufacturers have come to expect. Most importantly, though, his detailed research shows that the incorrect dosages of parts of a whole are disruptors and are actually very harmful over time. Since humans are cellularly different at every moment, it becomes a delicate and expensive task to formulate a food supplement that ends up being beneficial. And formulation is a smaller part of the problem than ingredient contamination – mold, mildew and parasites in even raw organic materials that go to make pills and capsules.
Because I am my own ongoing research project in the use of pro and pre biotic food like lacto-fermented raw milk, cream and butter plus vegetables and grains, I found his reasoning compelling enough to explore his ‘synbiotic food grown’ line of liquid food supplementation. He uses no parts of herbs or food nor any processed powders and pieces of wholes. He built special containers for pure foodstuffs (herbs, veggies, mushroom) so they wouldn’t be killed by the irradiation process in oceanic journeys. This beyond organic raw material grows into some amazingly potent liquid ferments that meet the criteria of ‘whole food’ supplementation. I have used his ‘Synbiotica’ liquid to great advantage, but it’s presently out of my price range, and I am using my kefir, natural pickles, and sourdough these days and hoping for the best. I spend lots and lots of time in food-related activities, though, and am better situated than most folks I know to enable good nutrition without the use of pills and powders and fractionated liquids.
What I do use, though, is my antioxidant delicious NingXia Red (http://www.ningxiared.com ) nutrient infusion. I drink an oz. or more each day and use it as a flavor mixer with my water kefir soda. I also use food grade essential oils as seasonings and flavorings in dishes just before serving (http://wewantorganicfood.com/2008/02/16/black-pepper-and-cinnamon-essential-oils/) and I keep on hand 3 different formulations of therapeutic essential oils in capsules for occasional use for digestion, detoxification and immune support.
These days it must be a purely unprocessed food substance to get part of my shrinking dollar – except for the EOs which are pressure/steam distilled.
Lynn Cameron
https://www.youngliving.org/aromavital
Kelly the Kitchen Kop 06.01.08 at 9:49 am
Hi Lynn,
Well, you’ve given me a lot to chew on, but as is always the case with this topic, it’s a bit overwhelming trying to figure out what to do with the information.
We could spend thousands more dollars a year getting even better supplements, or we could just continue trying to eat better foods grown in better soil more and more, and hope that “filling in” with Shaklee (& Perfect Food that we also take) isn’t harmful to us and that it is at least a better choice (quality of ingredients/better absorption, etc.) than what could be purchased at the corner grocery for much less money.
However, the only other thing we take, the cod liver oil caps, I have no doubts about at all – those I know are beneficial, because more and more I DO see differences in my family from taking them, and the evidence related to the omega 3’s is strong.
As always, thanks for sharing your wisdom with us! I appreciate that I can always come to you with the latest issue on my mind and you always respond.
Kelly
Tina 07.26.09 at 5:32 pm
Hi Kelly,
I want to order shaklee vitamins for my 1 and 3 year old boys. Can I still get them at member cost with $3 shipping? I realize this is an older blog entry so I’m not sure if it’s still possible.
Thank you!
Tina
Ronda 08.16.09 at 11:58 pm
sorry it you have answered this before, but what is in hubby’s alzheimer’s cocktail?
KitchenKop 08.17.09 at 9:19 am
Hi Ronda,
I hesitate to tell you specifically because it’s so NOT scientific, it’s just a mismatch of different Shaklee supplements, based on things we’ve read through the years that “might” help prevent Alzheimers. The more I learn, the more I wonder how much those isolated nutrients can help anyway, and while we keep buying them (and possibly waste $), even more we keep trying to eat better all the time and cram as many nutrients into our diet as we can.
If you still want to know, email me.
Kelly
Maketta 09.24.09 at 1:47 pm
Very good article and nice blog! I have been taking a vitamin and mineral liquid nutrition program for 4 years now too. I always have eaten healthy as my parents taught me the importance of a healty diet which always included lots of fruit and vegetables.